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Isaiah 53

While many argue over the trinity, while many argue over Jesus altogether:-

'He was false, he was only out for himself, he was not the only one that could perform miracles, he was an attention seeker, he was....'

So it goes on, you have heard them all before whether you're a Christian, a believer or not, right?

But when we are out for ourselves one thing usually occurs, even if we try hard to not show it, it soon becomes obvious to those around us, as it did with Judas that it's all about me, me, me.

Now sure Jesus did say things like follow me, this me, and that me, but we have to also and that's the reason I suddenly got the idea for doing this page, though I have thought of it before, in boosting my own faith, when the doubts come my way in moments of weakness, etc.

So as usual let us look at the scriptures and just how many times he actually refers to the Father, meaning He delights not in trying to get people to totally idol and worship and adore Him, he's trying to get us to focus on the one true God.
So ouch that has to hurt, because the Jew and many other man made so called religions like Islam teaches Jesus is nothing but a prophet, yet no other prophet ever claimed the things that Jesus Christ claimed and backed them up.
What He said came true, what He did stood out, not just healing but actually bringing people back from the dead, wow.

So does Jesus take the credit for such things, as nearly all normal human beings would selfishly do.

John 11:41  Then they took away the stone from the place where the dead was laid. And Jesus lifted up his eyes, and said, Father, I thank thee that thou hast heard me.
42  And I knew that thou hearest me always: but because of the people which stand by I said it, that they may believe that thou hast sent me.
43  And when he thus had spoken, he cried with a loud voice, Lazarus, come forth.


So we clearly see that Jesus is asking of the Father, God, calling upon Him, giving Him the glory, sure He is also performing these things that they may know that who He claims to be is true.

Matthew 5:16  Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.
Matthew 5:45  That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
Matthew 5:48  Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
Matthew 6:1  Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.
Matthew 6:4  That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.
Matthew 6:6  But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
Matthew 6:8  Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.
Matthew 6:9  After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.


We note that again Jesus says in praying it is to whom, that's right our Father, God, not Mary, not himself, just God only, with Our Father who art in heaven, simple enough. But it does not stop there:-

Matthew 6:14  For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
Matthew 6:15  But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
Matthew 6:18  That thou appear not unto men to fast, but unto thy Father which is in secret: and thy Father, which seeth in secret, shall reward thee openly.
Matthew 6:26  Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?
Matthew 6:32  (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.
Matthew 7:11  If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?
Matthew 7:21  Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Matthew 10:20  For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.
Matthew 10:29  Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father.
Matthew 10:32  Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.
Matthew 10:33  But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.
Matthew 11:25  At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.
Matthew 11:26  Even so, Father: for so it seemed good in thy sight.
Matthew 11:27  All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.
Matthew 12:50  For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.
Matthew 13:43  Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
Matthew 15:13  But he answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up.
Matthew 16:17  And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
Matthew 18:10  Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven.
Matthew 18:14  Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish.
Matthew 18:19  Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.
Matthew 18:35  So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.
Matthew 20:23  And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father.
Matthew 23:9  And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
Matthew 24:36  But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
Matthew 25:34  Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
Matthew 26:39  And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.
Matthew 26:42  He went away again the second time, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if this cup may not pass away from me, except I drink it, thy will be done.
Matthew 26:53  Thinkest thou that I cannot now pray to my Father, and he shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels?
Matthew 28:19
 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.

This only in Matthew let alone the other gospels like John and so forth.
If someone is out for themselves they will eventually show this, it slips through, even the best of actors, actresses eventually make a mistake and it all comes out, sooner or later you'll be found out.

And, yet, we are talking here of a man that spent three years, not weeks, months, three long years continuing to teach on the Father this and the Father that.

Also of course the biggest thing one has to tell themselves is this:-
If Jesus had been false, nothing, false claims, it would have fizzled out, gone, over with.
One has to remember the disciples were hiding out, afraid, lonely, lost their master, gone, all over, probably contemplating what to do next, do we go back to our old ways, fishing, etc, tax collector, well probably not that one, (laughs.)
But suddenly they didn't, suddenly thanks to these few Jewish men and later thousands and so on, we have the gospel today.
Had Jesus not been for real do you seriously think it could have lasted, gone that long, that God like with anyone who comes against the Jews like Nazi Germany did won't be whiped out. God would not have allowed it to continue, believe you me, Satan tries and fails, hence the holocaust and persecution today of the Christians in many parts of the world, and yet still they go on.
Still they just lay down their lives, not fighting. Sure in the past there were nasty evil crusades, I personally apologize for them to Jews and Muslims, not our way, the genuine Christian was taught what by our good Lord:-

Matthew 26:52  Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.

The genuine Christian wants peace as do the Jews, we want to live in love, not war, we are the only ones that will preach and not force our faith on anyone through violent means.
So when you have doubts, when Satan and others try to tear down your faith, just remind yourself of all the scriptures, all that Jesus did and said and all that then came true, all that is coming true today.
Very little left now to be fulfilled. No we are not talking about some snatch and hide the body away, and all the other ridiculas stories down the generations. Believe me, hard enough with the Holy Spirit, can you imagine not having God's Spirit, forget it. So if He'd not risen, not appeared, not given the Spirit, we'd have nothing today, nothing and rightly so to go upon. So that is more than enough proof, all you need. Many that I have read that have set out to mock and ridicule the Christian faith, whether through reading the Bible, attending some course or class, have eventually come to believe.
I pray you might be one of those people, before it's too late, because just as the Bible predicted, we see the state of the world today. From wars, conflicts in Iraq and so many other nations, Sudan, ethnic, and earthquakes and wow as for pestilences, from Aids to bird flu to Sars and so it goes on. You too must be asking yourself, wow something is going on here, terrorism getting worse, their trying to force id cards on us now, what is happening to our country our world.
Well you might well ask, your entitled to, but you will only find the answers my friend in the Bible, I promise you that, Amen.

Also what did they accuse of Him and what was Jesus response:-
John 8:48  Then answered the Jews, and said unto him, Say we not well that thou art a Samaritan, and hast a devil?
49  Jesus answered, I have not a devil; but I honour my Father, and ye do dishonour me.
50  And I seek not mine own glory: there is one that seeketh and judgeth.


John 7:18  He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.

By the way, the best line of them all has to be right near the end, when Jesus once again not referring to himself says:-

Luke 23:34  ...Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do.

August 04 update
By the way it's when we read the Bible, in my case a Bible commentary book things are revealed and I'm enjoying it, we must daily feed ourselves on this, spiritually, that's what Jesus meant, we can eat bread and hours later be really hungry again, but if we start to feed on Him, pray, read the bible and grow, even if we hunger it will be more for Him, which is only going to benefit us anyway.
Anyway the reason I mention the above is this, and it's probably obvious to most, but when I became a Christian back in 1995 I soon drifted and stayed asleep for the following few years, but having awoken in March 2003 I now am doing far more, growing far more than I did in all the previous years, but learning now that I need to take my time, slow down, He's in control and I'm saved, amen. So keep reminding the devil of that fact, your saved, okay.
Anyway here it is, now as Christians, maybe even non-believers, say those Jewish one's that are still into Judaism, etc, and are starting as the Bible predicted through jealousy as to why 2000 years later us gentiles should follow after a Jew that claimed He was God incarnated to take away our sins, etc.
Think, in the beginning right God would just say the word, it hit me as this was being preached on TV, so was not my commentary Bible actually in this case, but what hit me was this, if God just said the word and everything was made, what about us and Jesus.
We don't just say car and there it is, no we have to physically make the car, take parts and put it back together, we have to use our hands, materially and physically make a thing, God just said what:-

Genesis 1:3  And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

So do you get it now, He just said it and it was done, you're probably now going so, why should I who believe in one God then believe that Jesus was who He claimed to be, well we need to think on whether this so called Jesus of Nazareth did the same sort of things, spoke the word and if He was false God would not have backed Him up, no miracle, the best example of this was:-

John 11:43  And when he thus had spoken, he cried with a loud voice, Lazarus, come forth.
44  And he that was dead came forth, bound hand and foot with graveclothes: and his face was bound about with a napkin. Jesus saith unto them, Loose him, and let him go.

You might again be saying so, but think for a moment, what did Jesus do here, what would we have done, well probably not after 4 days, yuck, the smell, but we would have said quick get the equipment, not that in those days there were any.
That's right now you got it, Jesus didn't say quick get the medical instruments ready, remove the stone, I must do this and that, He didn't even rub anything on Him, blimey He never touched the man, WOW. He did just what, spoke the words, words, words, get it, words, no physical action needed.
Now okay those of you that sit there that then say, but I don't believe in that story anyway, in fact I don't period believe in the New Testament, I told you I'm a Jew, we reject Jesus, or I told you I'm such and such, good for you, I'm not asking you to become a Christian , say a Muslim, Stay a Jew, but, BUT, you can still accept Jesus into your life, you have nothing to lose, and by the way if you don't believe then in that, I think you need to visit a couple of pages of mine that I'm confident will more than persuade you that Jesus must have been who He said He was.
Why?
Well because remember these pages will be full of testimonies and links to their full stories of people set free from many things, not just illnesses but bondage's to things like drugs and porn, and drink and smoking, so it goes on. What they in effect do it glorify God and in a way denounce themselves, something as human beings pride won't let us do, meaning that if they were not genuine and had the Holy Spirit in them, why on earth would they make up such a thing, really, attention you think so, talking about my failure to stop my autosexuality (me here) I'm not sure is a very appropriate every day average topic of conversation do you. I mean that those that come to Christ, seem to suddenly tell things that put them well under the place of Jesus, they suddenly recognize and are willing to tell things that they suffered from PERSONAL things that before they'd have denied was even a problem let alone discuss them, get it, good phew, now please, please, never take my word for it, do your research so check out this many, many testimonies and you'll soon see what I mean, if a man that claims to be God sent down in human form can do all this and in this modern day so called technological age, then surely He was who He claimed to be, the Messiah, Amen.
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It's not easy you know, to be able to deny oneself and place Jesus first is something you'll always struggle in, but with the help of the Holy Spirit and the truth revealed and the fact that you'll now live forever, your saved, you don't have to keep worrying about doing good, because it won't buy you a place in heaven, you can rest assured that your finally on the right path, Amen.
John 14:6  Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
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