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The
first extensive audit of the loss of civil liberties in the UK
has been published, documenting a catalogue of restrictions of
fundamental British freedoms.
Among the 60 new powers contained in over 25 acts of parliament
published by the Convention on Modern Liberty, are laws allowing 28-day
detention without charge and restrictions on protest.
Other changes include email, telephone and letter interception,
electronic tagging, house arrest, private coroners' inquests and
restrictions on photography.
Northern
Rock was viewed as the most vulnerable bank in the UK’s banking system
in risk simulations carried out by key players as early as 2004, it
emerged last night.
Secret
“war games” held by the Financial Services Authority (FSA), the
Bank of England and the Treasury, all of which have been criticised for
not spotting weaknesses in Northern Rock’s business model earlier,
showed that the lender was at risk and that its troubles would have a
domino effect on HBOS. This belies assertions from the Government that
no one could have predicted the collapse of Northern Rock, which is now
owned by the state, in late 2007.
4 Hurting Comments: This
is huge and goes to show that everything on here that I'm on about and
linking to is true. Of course they knew and let it happen, how else
would people go along with such things as 10 regional unions of the
world and one world new order government. Engineer,
or least allow something major, a crisis to happen, and then be
pretending to sort it out, so people don't get mad at them, but all the
while laughing behind our backs, knowing that there is a bigger
picture, the monitoring and control of us all.
April 2009: “I think a new
world order is emerging and with it the foundations of a
new and progressive era of international cooperation,” the host premier
declared. http://www.sindhtoday.net/south-asia/82438.htm
Topic: Our country
and the entire world are going thru perilous times
unlike we have ever seen. The hour is late, the situation worsening.
Rick shares today what God has been laying on his heart. Trunews_audio_fri_6th_march_2009
They
can not all be wrong above, anyway, now on to the Bible study part,
with more news at the bottom of this page.
Hi, yes it is long,
but I promise you worth it, read it all, bookmark and come back if you
don't have time.
Because you came here for a reason, saved or not yet saved you must be
wondering what on earth is going on in the 21st Century.
From 911 to the Iraq war and diseases and Hurricanes and floods and
many other awful events, like the current major global financial and
economic crisis that has now led to a recession.
70 AD
Roman Legions under General Titus sack Jerusalem and destroy the temple
while crushing a Jewish revolt.
The Jews did attempt another revolt it seems in 132-135, but I suspect
they had lost any authority they once had in Jerusalem the main focus
of attention as we'll see later in the verses in Luke.
So it is recognized that because of this event described above in 70 AD
or 135 AD that the Jews then got dispersed throughout the world.
What became of the 4th Beast, major empire at that time.
They split in two as it suggests in Daniel, East and West.
Over time they just ceased to be, as many conquests brought many other
factions to win wars and control certain areas in the world, but never
on a scale that the Romans were like.
Many have tried including Hitler to get that one world government
ruling empire back again.
However the Second World War actually resulted in the following:
1948: The state of Israel is established and is attacked by the
Egyptians and the Jordanian Arab Legion.
We have to remember then that between 70AD certainly 135 AD and 1948
effectively Israel
was not in any sort of power, not in her land as such, in any vast
number.
So as Jesus said in Matthew 24 and Luke 21: As some were talking
about the temple and how it was decorated with beautiful stones and
gifts, he said,
"As for these things which you see, the days will come, in which
there will not be left here one stone on another that will not be
thrown down."
So it is clear then that from 70 AD (135 AD) until Israel was
recognized as a
State again in 1948 that anything in between does not count.
So only since 1948 we should be looking for this final empire like,
that is in the last days leading towards Jesus return.
What else then do we see set up in the very same year as Israel, in
1948 or there abouts:
1947: US
secretary of state George Marshall calls for a plan for
European economic recovery. 1948: US
Government pledges massive aide to Europe for the
implementation of the Marshall plan. 1948: Brussels
treaty agreeing military and economic co-operation is signed by
Britain, France, Belgium, Netherlands and Luxembourg.
So we see that in the same year that Israel is accepted and recognized
as a nation again the Europeans minus Rome as such do what, what was
rome strong for and what is predicted again to be the strong force in
the last empire before Jesus returns, military and money, also
predicted in Revelation, we see this above in the Brussels treaty. So I
feel yes we must look to Europe after all, but also the USA needs to be
kept an eye on, more on all that below.
So who is and becomes the dominating force at the time of Israel, only
few years before we have:
1945: Founding
United Nations conference is held in San Francisco;
Spain and Portugal are among the countries excluded from membership. 1945: Arab
League is founded.
Using a book charting the key events in history, and we must now look
at everything that has happened then since Israel is now back in her
land, a nation again, the clock started to tick again.
There are so many schools of thought, in Revelation chapter 13, it is
talking about a system, rather than a man that is wounded, I've heard
preached by a guy on TBN, and that we are already in the last days and
that the 7th head was the UK and the last one is the UN and USA, makes
sense, the USA is the only real powerful empire on earth today, can
send spaceships up in space and like it does say in Revelation chapter
13 it causes fire to come down from heaven, as in 1945 dropping the
atomic bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in Japan. Food for thought eh.
Now if taken literally, it is believed according to the Bible in Daniel
and Revelation that in the last days a one world government and
religion and money system will be set up.
Interesting in light of recent events, as I do this on 16th October
2008, listen to what French President Nicolas Sarkozy was saying on TV:
"Another subject in tomorrow's world is that of the great currencies.
How many should there be? What should the agreement between these great
currencies be? Should we organize a discussion? Should a country like
India one day have a global currency?" Sarkozy told a news conference.
"These are subjects that should be discussed ... I strongly believe
that all these subjects should be on the table, that we should prepare
an ambitious agenda, that we should equip ourselves with initial
conclusions for a first summit that I would like to be held in
November," he said.
Now he may actually have been on about the opposite, it not working as
such. But thing is, one thing satan has always wanted to do and set up
through mankind was a world world system, this attempt failed in babel,
because the time was not ready and God was ready to intervene, but
since Jesus, it is Finished.
So it makes sense now for this to happen again, only this time it would
not be stopped by God.
Many believe in a literal Anti-Christ and a literal mark of the beast.
I have of late, last few years tended to lean towards believing this to
me more symbolic
as opposed to some sort of literal mark.
After all why not just force you to have the darn microchip anyway,
rather than allow you the choice to refuse and then chop your head off.
Either though, I'd still not be keen on having it, or anything, because
it comes down to control.
Applicants can choose
to have a card, a passport, or both, although
they cannot opt out of having their details recorded on the NIR. In
March 2008 the Home secretary announced that people could choose to
have an identity card, a passport, or both when they become available.
On 25 November 2008 people making applications to remain in the United
Kingdom as a student or based on marriage were required to have an
identity card and the Government announced that all new foreign
nationals and those extending their stay will have a card within three
years. Under these plans it is estimated that by the end of 2014/15
about 90 per cent of all foreign nationals will have been issued with
one. On January 22, 2008, the Home Office confirmed that large volumes
of cards will be not be issued until 2012, however, ID cards will be
issued to workers in critical locations starting with airside workers
in Manchester and London City airports in 2009, and young people will
be offered cards from 2010. A
leaked
document, published on January 29, 2008, suggests that
'universal compulsion should not be used unless absolutely necessary...
due the need for inevitably controversial and time-consuming primary
legislation' but that 'various forms of coercion, such as designation
of the application process for identity documents issued by UK
ministers (eg passports) are an option to stimulate applications in a
manageable way'.
We have to look for something going on today that foreshadows what was
said by Jesus in particular 2000 odd years ago.
We've certainly seen and can prove the earthquakes
and whatever getting
worse.
Many, even so called Christians even will be asleep and say, we've
always had those things.
But Israel was not a nation then, this is the key.
We are looking for everything Jesus spoke about to get worse since
around say 1948, maybe a bit before.
Think, remember above, Did Rome and the Roman empire go out over night
in 70AD, 135 AD, no, but Israel clearly did.
So if Rome went on afterwards for some time, stands to reason, that
maybe before Israel comes back again, many years before the revived
Roman Empire (the European Union) will already be around.
Now many argue points here, about the E.U and how
many nations and the
WEU and this and that.
But we have to again look at the bigger wider picture.
Hey, not to mention Walid Shoebat who of course believe it will be
about Israel and the surrounding arab nations only, good point.
However, do we take the Bible when it says whole earth, so on, to mean
just that, every eye will see, and everyone will be affected kind of
thing to mean that.
Is the current, at the time of typing this, Global Financial and
Economic Crisis effecting only the Middle East, or Asia or the USA, no,
why.
Because everything in the last few decades as Barry Smith rightly
pointed out has been intertwined, encouraged to buy if you like into
other countries, making us Global.
Today then we get the talk of:
Globalization, Global, New World Order, New Order, One World Government
and so on, these by secular sourses.
Are they thick, do they read the web, surely it's that obvious, that it
can't be true.
For instance, the mark can't be literal, because the films on TBN are
surely known, brought to the attention of the Global governments, so
they'd never get that past us, right?
See the thing is, how could this come about, how can it possibly be
like the Bible says when we live in a Christian West, surely not.
Well, what if the goal posts were changed, the whole concept if you
like, for instance what about Tony Blair and what his interfaith
foundation things tries to set up.
He might well mean well, might not be an anti-christ or a false prophet
and heck what is wrong with coming together.
I'll give you an example then of the dangers of it, called compromise,
which the world does well today, that's why so many going to church,
yet still when they die will go to hell, because they think just doing
good and going to church saves them.
Let's say Catholics wanted to protest about homosexuality, or abortion,
cool, I'm all for that, let's work together.
But what if because of that, they said, this is silly, us being split
like this, let's join together again, protestant Christians and
Catholics become one, better for fighting issues, gives us a bigger
voice, share many of the same values, true.
But one day in church we not only have Jesus worshipped and prayed to,
we now come to Mary, hang on, where is this in the Bible.
Same with Muslims, God has no Son, so they don't believe as Jesus said
Himself, that He is the only way to the Father.
Once we get this out there, once Christians who have been, most of
them, quiet for years, have the laws changed and so on, start to wise
up, too late of course and complain, they will be branded extermists
and terrorists and so on, you have something to hide and so on.
No, I have nothing to hide, love being open, tell you anything just
about, that is not the problem, why I fear and reject the UK national
ID card scheme, it's about control.
Those men you read about on the net, the global elite, that have vast
amounts of money, and supposedly loan to and control the governments
and have secret meetings, and so on.
Why?
Because the buying and selling of your soul comes down to money, Jesus
hinted as such Himself, you can not serve two gods, both money and God.
Why?
Because it can not compete, meaning one will over-rule the other.
Look at Blair, power corrupts, always the same, I'm sure Kind David did
not commit adultery and murder straight away.
Blair for the most part seemed good actually from 1997 until say end of
2000.
Does God buy your soul, meaning you are a born again spirit filled
Christian, fighting your weaknesses and habits and doing your best to
follow the Bible, or are you living for the world, sex, money, greed,
more, more, more, money, money, money. Because if you don't serve God
you will serve something, everyone is a slave to something and everyone
has their God, whether it's work, sport, sex, cars, money, so on.
Let's, before we go on, take a look at something very interesting to
dismiss those that say what makes you sure this is it, well Israel was
the key, since 1948 and Jerusalem captured in 1967, we now look at what
Jesus said:
Matthew 24:
6 You will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that
you aren't troubled, for all this must happen, but the end is not yet. 7 For
nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against
kingdom; and there will be famines, plagues, and earthquakes in various
places. 8 But all
these things are the beginning of birth pains.
What did you read in verse 8, can a woman stay pregnant for ever, no,
exactly.
What happens, that's right, contractions become worse, closer together,
more intensity.
I wonder what a different world we'd have if people knew that, that we
have not been here for billions of years only around 6,000 odd and that
time is short, unless saved it's game over, new heavens and a new
earth, so on.
Luke 21:
24 They will fall by the edge of the sword, and will be
led captive into all the nations. Jerusalem will be trampled down by
the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled. 25 There
will be signs in the sun, moon, and stars; and on the
earth anxiety of nations, in perplexity for the roaring of the sea and
the waves; 26 men
fainting for fear, and for expectation of the things which
are coming on the world: for the powers of the heavens will be shaken.
Sounds like today doesn't it, earthquakes and floods and hurricanes and
global turmoil with wars and economic crisis and so on.
Things don't get better under satan, if this as the Bible tells us is
his world, heck imagine how much worse hell is.
The Jews as has been predicted in the Bible are returning from all over
the world, back to the land of Israel.
So we need to look at where we are today, and come on, can't tell me
they did not see this coming, this global credit crisis and so on, not
saying as some that they caused it, inside job, like some believe 911
was, but we know that with a Crisis now comes measures quickly rushed
through, which the masses go along with. It can only be one of two
things, they either did not want to cause panic, keep quiet, hope it
goes away, or
they knew and allowed it to happen and are pretending to
sort it out, while the global elite laugh and say this is out chance. Think, as I see it,
those in debt to the bank, are no in effect in debt
to the governments that have a say now as such in the banks they have
aquired, or least taken part control over, and of course in turn the
governments are owned effectively by the global elite that they have
gone to again to borrow more money to use in these bail outs and take
overs and so on.
The whole darn thing stinks to say the least, even if I and the
conspriacy theorists are wrong.
On the note of a literal Anti-Christ, was interesting to hear the
question of the E.U presidency brought up on the 16th October on
TV to Jose Manuel Barroso, who joked that
Nicolas Sarkozy himself would love to do it. I've still got my
eyes on Tony Blair, who
been said in the past was touted for the job by Nicolas Sarkozy himself.
Will there be a literal Anti-Christ, that will rule Europe and will the
USA fall from grace and be the false prophet paying homage to the first
beast.
Just a feeling, could be wrong, but this is now my feeling, if the
current world powers remain as they are, that the beast that went out
was Rome at the time of Israel, the beast that came in was the UN and
it is in the USA, most powerful still at time of typing this out,
October 2008.
So, so, could it be, as I'm currently now thinking, that, just possible
that, the beast that was wounded, sort of fizzled out in 527 AD, east
empire,
west went in around 476 AD need to look at my book again, around then,
is coming back during the
2oth century and will be helped by the false prophect the UN and USA.
They have a Christian image but talk like a dragon the bible says, hmm,
they do, we are supposed to be a Christian in the West, but no wonder
the Arabs hate us, calling us little and Big satan, Israel and USA
anyway.
Look at the flilth, dirty sex and violence that comes out of the US in
films, the wars, the, oh I'm sure list would be endless as well.
See, thing is, what satan could not do through war, having failed under
Hitler, as many countries don't like it, and will fight back, he will
now be allowed to do by the back door. And it is this approach that has
been going on for decades. Countries barriers bit by bit have been
broken down. Any doubt about that has been blown away, hence me doing
this, by this current economic Financial Crisis in autumn (fall) of
2008.
So this is my current thinking, you can't impose a thing without a
crisis, something big effecing a nation or nations.
For instance, it is said before 911 that to try and introduce something
like ID Cards
was opposed by the majority of people. But since 911,
that perception has changed. So how do you achieve global governance,
by creating, or least allowing a crisis to happen. Even if the
governments are not behind it the global elite certainly are, lend,
lend, lend, smile, smile smile and get the countries and us into more
debt, debt, debt, so they can control, control, control, get the
picture.
Despite warnings apparently from come quarters about the 911 event, are
we do believe the Government was just simply naive, no one wants a
government in that does not have the best interest of it's people at
heart, right.
Even more so today, are we to believe many government around the world
and financial experts, stock market people had no idea, we just thought
money grew on trees, we'd always have the good times, come off it, I
could see it coming, and I'm nothing, get real.
Either because of not wanting to make it worse, panic people, hope it
went away, or they knew and allowed it to happen, in which case why,
well, maybe because like I keep saying and have researched to take yet
more control over us.
Because of this current crisis, that government are taking over or
taking some sort of control in our banks and now on about creating a
global watchdog to control no doubt as much as over see the worlds
financial system.
Are we seeing unite globally on commons goals, those which the bible
calls military, one financial system and one religion.
Thing is, many are looking for one guy to lead the world with one
currency and one language and one religion.
However could it be we have the one language already, most speak
English now, notice that on news and football, sports and so on, those
that don't all translated, hence in the Eurpean Parliament having those
headphones. As for money, well already have credit cards, nearly used
in every country and again on the net and so already kind of global,
and the religion might not be some sort of faith as such, not Islam
taking over, nor this or that, but something that acts like a religion,
heck they call satanism a religion today. It is likely to be a system,
similar I guess to Tony Blairs interfaith thing, gathering all
religions and organizations, top ones of the world to come together
over common issues for the good of mankind, so on.
However,
finally, enough of the speculation as usual we need to find evidence,
based on a secular key events book that these things are taking place,
meaning
looking from 1945 until now and concerning mainly the USA and European
countries and the UN. However military conflicts are not included.
1945: Founding United Nations
conference is held in San Francisco;
Spain and Portugal are among the countries excluded from membership. 1945: Arab
League is founded. 1947: US secretary of state George
Marshall calls for a plan for
European economic recovery. 1948: US
Government pledges massive aide to Europe for the
implementation of the Marshall plan. 1948:
Brussels treaty agreeing military and economic co-operation is signed
by Britain, France, Belgium, Netherlands and Luxembourg.
1949: Council of Europe and the European Court of Human Rights are
established.
1949: North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) is formed for mutual
defence by the USA, Canada and Western European States.
1951: West Germany is admitted to Council of Europe.
1952: European Coal and Steel community is formed.
1952: Greece and Turkey join NATO.
1955: Austria, Spain, Portugal, Ireland, Bulgaria and Hungry are
admitted to the UN.
1957: France, Belgium, the Netherlands, Luxembourg, Italy and West
Germany sign the treay of Rome establishing the European Economic
Community (EEC) or Common Market.
1958: US National Aeronauticals and Space Administration (NASA) is
established .
1960: Non-Common Market countries form the European Free Trade
Association.
1960: USA and Canada join Western European nations to form the
Organization for the Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD).
1967: EEC becomes the European Community (EC).
1968: UN approves a nuclear non-proliferation treaty.
1972: Britain, Denmark and Ireland join the EC.
1975: Helsinki accords on peace and human rights mark a major step in
the process of detente between NATO and the Warsaw Pact.
1978: Group of Seven (G7) industrialized nations meet to discuss
economic policy.
1980: Greece joins the EC.
1983: US cruise missiles are located at airbases in Britain.
1986: Spain and Portugal join the EC.
1989: Hungry adopts a new constitution and opens its borders; popular
protests in East Germany lead to the dismantling of the Berlin wall.
1989: US and Soviet presidents officially declare the end of the Cold
War.
1990: East and West Germany are reunited.
1992: Canada, the USA and Mexico form the North American Free Trade
Association (NAFTA)
1993: EC establishes a single market.
1995: Austria, Finland and Sweden join the European Union (EU).
1995: World Trade Organization (WTO) succeeds GATT.
1999: European currency the euro comes into limited use.
1999: Commissioners of the EU, including the president Jacques Santer
resign en masse after criticisms of corruption.
1999: Riots accompany the WTO talks in Seattle, Washington.
2002: Euro notes and coins adopted in 12 European countries.
http://www.oneworldtrust.org/documents/OWT_GAR_07_colour_lo-res.pdf
Read page 11 especially and one can easily see that what I been saying
about a crisis is what spurs the so called need for some sort of over
all global governing, hmm, is this report all innocent, just over
seeing organizations that already exist and making sure they do what
they are supposed to do, hmm, food for thought though eh.
Of course one must not forget the internet and TV, via satellite which
has also shrunk the world considerably. Is it possible as the guy
suggested on that show on TBN that the image could be the TV and
computers.
Funny, but in recent times I've often called channel 4 satan's channel
for instance and that the BBC now is even under his control.
Does this mean in the mornings satan pulls up in a car and gets out to
be greeted, 'Good morning Mr Satan, turned out nice again.'
No of course not, but the content showing on these and many hundred of
stations, even including now sadly some Christian channels is often
anti-Christian, well very worldly, so opposed to the Bible view as such.
Are we cleverly being brainwashed, can we believe all we are told on
News channels, and while the masses follow the dirty soft and hard core
porn channels and violent films and dirty music brainwashing words
videos the global elite bit by bit moves on taking over more and more
worldly control. So what
is true:
In
the 19th century a legend began which falsely
accuses him of having used his early knowledge of victory at the Battle of Waterloo to speculate on the Stock Exchange and make
a vast fortune.[6]
To the Rothschilds, [England's] chief
financial
agents, Waterloo brought a many million pound scoop.
... a Rothschild agent ... jumped into a boat at Ostend
... Nathan Rothschild ... let his eye fly over the lead paragraphs. A
moment later he was on his way to London
(beating Wellington's envoy by many hours) to tell the government that Napoleon had been crushed: but his
news was not believed, because the government had just heard of the
English defeat at Quatre Bras. Then he proceeded to the Stock
Exchange.
Another man in his position would have sunk his work into consols,
already weak because of Quatre Bra. But this was Nathan Rothschild. He
leaned against "his" pillar. He did not invest. He sold. He dumped
consols.
...Consols dropped still more. "Rothschild knows," the whisper rippled
through the 'Change. "Waterloo is lost."
Nathan kept on selling ... consols plummeted—until, a split second
before it was too late, Nathan suddenly bought a giant parcel for a
song. Moments afterwards the great news broke, to send consols soaring.
We cannot guess the number of hopes and savings wiped out by this
engineered panic.
Research
by the Rothschild family[8] and others [9] has shown that this legend originated in an
anti-semitic French pamphlet in 1846, was embellished by John Reeves in
1887 in The Rothschilds: the Financial Rulers of Nations
and then repeated in other later popular accounts, such as that of
Morton. Many of the alleged facts stated are incorrect. For example, it
has been shown that the size of the market in government bonds at the
time would not have enabled a scenario producing a profit of anything
near £1 million.[10]
Conspiracy theories
In
Fritz Springmeier's book Bloodlines of the
Illuminati, he argues that the Rothschild family is one of thirteen
dynastic bloodlines linked to the Illuminati.
New World
Order conspiracy theories present the Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Phipps',
DuPonts, Vanderbilts, Bush
family, etc. as the real rulers or would-be rulers of the world.[citation needed]
The
acclaimed poet Ezra
Pound, in his World War II
radio broadcasts from Italy, openly named the Rothschilds as the
masters of a clique of banking houses that caused the World Wars in
order to profit from them and get countries in debt to the lending central
banks,
which Pound claimed the Rothschild interests owned and exercised
control of a nation's policy by having the power to issue the nation's
money. Earlier, in 1935, Pound had speculated that "organized anti-Semitism might be the hidden war of SwissProtestant dynasties against the Rothschilds,
whom they had never forgiven for breaking into their banking monopoly."[9]
Real
news headlines concerning the global elite for you to make your own
mind up. Regardless of them, clear the Bible is saying there will be,
as history always repeats itself, a global influcing power, by the time
Jesus returns, His second coming, etc.
http://www.capitalresearch.org/pubs/pdf/FW0105.pdf
The Rockefeller Brothers Fund’s division on “Peace and Security”
declares that its mission is to promote global security by having
“governments, citizens, and civil society organizations...contribute to
the creation of a safe, equitable, and just global community.”
Rockefeller Brothers Fund grantmaking shows that “global
interdependence” might be little more than a 21st century version of
one-worldism. One 2003 fund grant, for $100,000, went to the Benton
Foundation for a project known as “OneWorldU.S.”
http://www.abroadview.org/stories/interviews/rockefeller.htm
SR: First of all, building a sense of global community in the midst of
great cultural diversity is essential to the survival of the human
species at this point in history.
(This makes interesting reading and yet again if you were not awake and
aware of what the Bible says will happen in the last days, you'd be
foregiven for thinking all this was innocent and sounds great. But
again it's the compromise, like in Tony Blair's vision, faith
foundation thing, that is flawed. We can no compromise, as Jesus said I
am the way the truth and the life, no one comes to the Father except by
me, not Mary, Not Mohammed, not the Pope, not Tony Blair, not Satan,
not Buddha, not St Paul, or Peter or John the Baptist, none but Yeshua
the messiah.)
All of the above is so hard to
just say, I've got it, it's 100% true.
WHY?
There are so many different opinions, I believe in a mid to post
rapture as opposed to the often touted pre-trib rapture.
If God has intended it to be clear cut, it would have been easy for the
enemy to know too what was going on, hence all the symbolic nation
spoken of in Revelation.
We also have the preterists, who believe that it's all past history,
all done.
I still have trouble with this, as the Bible says Jesus is to return
and satan locked away, chained up, I can vouch as many can that satan
and demons are not locked away, and still able to cause trouble today,
also where is Jesus, He just decided to visit and then go off again,
doesn't add it.
So if Revelation and Daniel are
about a future event, when.
Clearly many have seen the key as being Israel.
Possibly Jerusalem as we saw above in Luke, was the times of the
gentiles over in 1967, and Israel governs itself now, or is it talking
about when Jesus returns.
Trouble with searching on the internet is you have so many differing
views you can end up in a right mess.
This is why I like to take everything on board.
This is why I believe the mark
of the beast to be symbolic, but don't rule out the possibility of some
literal part to it, or it being totally literal.
I do know one thing, for anyone that says Revelation is all literal and
should be taken that way, we have a problem, I saw a lamb John will
say, really, our messiah is a lamb, barh barh, no it'd obvious it means
Jesus.
Obvious the beasts are countries, horns and so on, based on Daniel
which fits in.
I like to err on the side of caution, meaning be prepared mentially for
rapture at the end of the so called seven year trouble, but if you go
at the beginning, amen, I'm happy to be wrong.
I struggle with aspects, the 1000 year Christ reign on earth, and the
literal anti-christ and the mark of the beast and the seven years
tribulation, so am happy to wait and see and watch, but always being
aware.
However, when certain events happen, I feel a duty to report them,
trouble is, sure one can look a fool as it passes over, after my
powerful experience back in March
2003 I thought it was game over, we'd not see many more weeks,
months before Jesus returned.
So probably when all this is
over and it's 2013 we go, oh no, what fools we were, even we question
when Jesus will return now, and we lose faith.
But one thing I do know is that so far when the Bible predicts and says
something, it always 100% happens.
So, could we be being duped, is it already happening.
Meaning while people look for a guy to come out of the European Union
who satan will possess and we call The AntiChrist, who we expect to be
wounded, maybe shot and brought back to life, we have already missed
the boat.
This is why above I'm happy,
thanks to another teaching I've heard on TBN to put another perspective
on it.
Trouble is, certain verses can fit and then certain one's not. For
example, easy to say this is about a country, then read else where,
further on, where it might say he when referring to the beast, arrrr,
we have a problem now, if it is a literal he, how can the beast be a
country, perhaps both, beast the country and the horn a man, see how
confusing it all gets in a few verses, let alone the whole of
Revelation.
However, I'll finally
round this off with this, we need to be looking and digging deeper.
Does it matter, maybe not, who cares, just love and spread the
gospel, but then why does it say that if you read the book of
Revelation you receive a blessing.
It must be important.
Another reason apart from forcing a literal mark on you, is the
mentally disabled, those might have accepted Christ, no longer with it,
trusting on unsaved members of the family.
seeing as you can't be forgiven the mark, well, mad ain't, just because
God's mark is symbolic, does not mean satan's has to be literal.
So what is the goal, surely it is good to work together, and opposing
Christian can be persecuted as outcasts for not going along with it,
but as I said above, if it is compromise, no, and this is the point, is
the E.U Christ friendly, I very much doubt it, and so we look for a
world system, growing closer together that opposes more and more the
Christian values and way of life.
I'll leave you with this and I do apologize for those not genuine
Christians that did the crusades against Jews and Muslims, whatever, we
are all fallen, no one is perfect.
What strikes me is this, and I don't like to call it religion, faith
really, but how do I know we have it so right, not Hindu, Muslim, oh
you name it. Well, why is it the Christians are feared, killed,
persecuted, when for the most part, if genuine, they just smiply go
about and say the word, preach the message, no forcing, no camps, no
brainwashing, no looking to some figure on earth as all the other
religions do. Lets hold the Pope, no Mohammed, no such and such in high
regard and woe-be-tide you if you don't, kill the infidels.
Most strange, is it because we don't care, no we do, hurts us and God
when people swear using Jesus and God's name, we don't make a fuss
about pictures done of Him and so on. No, not disrepect at all, Jesus
said to love, turn the other cheek, do good to those who persecute you,
God causes the sun to shine on the righteous and unrighteous alike,
right. He loves and accepts us all.
But what is it going to be, justification and salvation via your own
effort, or accepting Jesus who came to take your place.
No good standing up in court having finally been caught for that
mistake of robbery years ago and saying, Judge (God) your a good man,
I'm sure you'll over look that, it was 20 years ago and I'm a good man
now, well by most people's standards, you are guilty, you still have to
serve time (put in hell) BUT hang on someone steps in, says they want
to take your place, wow, Jesus.
You get the picture, if you think being and doing good will get you
into heaven, that following all these religions and being an athiest is
cool, think again, take
the good person test now.
Point is this, if I'm wrong, nothing to worry about, but if I'm, rather
the Bible is right, as so far it always has been, based on fact,
evidence, so no, then you have a lot to worry about if you have not
repented of your sins and given your life to Jesus.
Remember, Christian is just a name, to let people know you accepted
Christ's free gift, taking your punishment on that cross 2000 years
ago, He already walked in the court room, so why to many say, no
thanks, I'd rather take the penalty myself and reject His offer, seems
madness to me, right?
So watch as the world is already uniting and becoming more and more
anti-Christian, whenever a group, the genuine proper following
Christians, become a minority, it's then the persecution starts and
that is the fear, not about having anything to hide, it's about control
and that is what we need to research, regardless whether the European
Union is the new roman empire, we must look at what they really stand
for, what they are really up to and I can tell you, it's ain't good.
No, I suspect, where
there really is some agenda with the Rothschilds, Rockefellers, and
Bilderbergs, anyone who has not accepted Jesus, and is worldly belongs
to the world and serves satan whether they know it or not.
That is what is heartbreaking, getting through to a witch or satanist,
that just because serve satan, in for a nasty shock when they die, end
up in hell and are still tortured, no way, go figure, why? Because
Satan tried to be God, lost the war, was kicked out of heaven and hates
everything of God, including all humans and everything associated with
that.
Like it or not, when we struggle, when the going is bad, we turn to
God, the Old Testament is full of it, but when the going was good the
children of Israel soon forgot about God and went their own way. THAT'S
the danger is uniting the world again as at the tower of babel, it's
about saying, crisis, oh no need for God we are one now, we can sort
this out, we can do it, we can be God, which is what satan wants,
nothing ever changes, satan the same yesterday, today and forever, read
Genesis chapter 3, an satan says the same thing today, you don't need
God, can't trust Him, you don't wanna be a robot, go on, do it your
way, and most do, but when the taking drugs, drink and whatever else
goes wrong, where is satan, no where to be seen, run off, like the good
buddy he is, but God is always there to turn to, amen:
Luke 15: 11 He said, "A certain
man had two sons. 12 The
younger of them said to his father (picture
of God), 'Father, give me my share of your property.' He divided
his livelihood between them. 13 Not
many days after, the younger son gathered all of this together and
traveled into a far country. There he wasted his property with riotous
living. (Sin) 14 When he
had spent all of it, there arose a severe famine in that country, (A crisis) and he began to be in need. 15 He went
and joined himself to one of the citizens of that country, and he sent
him into his fields to feed pigs. 16 He
wanted to fill his belly with the husks that the pigs ate, but no one
gave him any. (So much for satan's
cronies) 17 But
when he came to himself he said, 'How many hired servants of my
father's have bread enough to spare, and I'm dying with hunger! 18 I will
get up and go to my father, and will tell him, "Father, I have sinned
against heaven, and in your sight. 19 I am no
more worthy to be called your son. Make me as one of your hired
servants."' 20 "He
arose, and came to his father. But while he was still far off, his
father saw him, and was moved with compassion, and ran, and fell on his
neck, and kissed him. 21 The son
said to him, 'Father, I have sinned against heaven, and in your sight.
I am no longer worthy to be called your son.' 22 "But
the father said to his servants, 'Bring out the best robe, and put it
on him. Put a ring on his hand, and shoes on his feet. 23 Bring
the fattened calf, kill it, and let us eat, and celebrate; 24 for
this, my son, was dead, and is alive again. He was lost, and is found.'
They began to celebrate.
4 Hurting comments: Remember
it's a con, the real criminal always get around this some
how, I still believe it's about controlling the normal population,
which brings me to the following below, after the next news bit about
mobile phones, and cyber criminals.
(Remember a pattern seems to be emerging, allow a crisis, or create one
and then we go along with the so called introduced measures to deal
with it, which when looked into carefully seem to be constantly taking
away our freedoms.
Despite all the following do I still believe the mark of the beast to
be symbolic and not some microchip, hmm, getting tougher the more we
keep, almost daily, certainly weekly hearing about the following
headlines below. Passports
will be needed to buy mobile phones
Everyone
who buys a mobile telephone will be forced to register their identity
on a national database under government plans to extend massively the
powers
of state surveillance.
Phone buyers would
have to present a passport or other official form of
identification at the point of purchase. Privacy campaigners fear it
marks
the latest government move to create a surveillance society. Click here for the
full article
Rules
forcing internet companies to keep details of
every e-mail sent in the UK are a waste of money and an attack on civil
liberties, say critics.
From
March all internet service providers (ISPs) will by law
have to keep information about every e-mail sent or received in the UK
for a year.
Human
rights group Liberty says it is worried what will happen next.
I think
this sums it up, when a secular source like the Times covers the last
days without knowing it, and with snow and cold in the UK causing
chaos, and in Australia with scores dead from wildfires, now officially
there worst in history, can there
be little doubt we are that final generation, else there will be
nothing left
for Jesus to return to in a few years, the way we are going on.
But
just as chilling is the following article concerning the bees:
The
world is going haywire. If the very worst scenarios are to be
believed, then the Plymouth bee is an early pathfinder en route not
just to its own Armageddon but to our own.
In
addition to his general theory of relativity, Albert Einstein had a
specific theory about the relativity of man and bee. “If the bee
disappears off the surface of the globe,” he is supposed to have said,
“then man would only have four years of life left.”
FORMER
British spy chief Dame Stella Rimington yesterday accused the
Government of playing into terrorists’ hands by trying to force through
laws which were in danger of creating a police state.
POLICE will be
allowed to secretly search suspects' homes and remotely access their
home computers for a month under the most draconian covert operation
laws the state has seen.
And
no one will know,
because of a provision allowing investigators to keep those being spied
on in the dark for up to three years.
The laws, which give
police greater power to deal with criminals
than they have to use against suspected terrorists, were introduced
into Parliament without warning by the Government yesterday as part of
a crackdown on criminal gangs. However, they drew immediate criticism
from civil libertarians, who claimed it was an invasion of personal
freedom and from the NSW Opposition, who claimed they wouldn't work.
The information watchdog has shut down a company which it says sold
workers' confidential data, including union activities, to building
firms.
A raid on The Consulting Association in Droitwich, Worcs, revealed a
serious breach of the Data Protection Act, the Information
Commissioner's Office said.
The ICO said a secret system was run for over 15 years enabling
employers to unlawfully vet job applicants.
Action is being considered against more than 40 firms who used the
service.
Not only was the database held without the workers' consent, but the
existence of it was repeatedly denied.
Mr Smith said: "Trading people's personal details in this way is
unlawful and we are determined to stamp out this type of activity."
Alan Ritchie, general
secretary of
building workers union Ucatt, said: "Take one of the issues that we
have in the construction industry: we have just under two people killed
every week through bad health and safety practices and if a
whistleblower then raises these issues, then obviously he has found his
name on this list.
"He has never had the chance to challenge it.
"He has never been able to turn around and say, 'You are classing me as
lazy. How can that be?'"
4
Hurting comments:
Once again this only goes to prove that big brother society wants us
all tagged, monitored and restricted in freedoms of speech and that
important and sensitive information about people's lifestyle can simply
not be entrusted to anyone. This surely once again makes any case of
having any form of national id card dead in the water. March 9th 2009 Buffett:
crisis is an economic Pearl Harbor
Warren
Buffett declared today that the US economy had “fallen off a cliff”,
describing the current crisis as “an economic Pearl Harbor”, as concern
continued to spread about the Administration’s fitful attempts to halt
the
collapse of the American banking sector.
The
fabled investor and an informal adviser to President Obama, whose
financial diagnoses are widely respected - even though he conceded that
he
failed to predict the severity of the crisis — said that the economy
had
come “close to the worst case” that he had imagined and that recovery
will
be slow.
On Sunday the World
Bank predicted that the global economy will contract this
year for the first time since World War II, a far grimmer assessment
that it
had previously offered. Its report highlighted the international nature
of
the economic crisis and warned that the recessions in developed nations
was
likely to play havoc with the economies of poorer and emerging
countries,
threatening political and social unrest.Perhaps one might be
safer investing in GoldMeanwhile, the crisis
allows western governments to impose the sort of
economic martial law that would be impossible via the ballot box. And
so the (in a quaint legal fiction, nominally still independent) Bank of
England takes a leaf out of Japan's book and tries its hand at
so-called quantitative easing, also known as money creation. The
trillion Pound question: will it work? click here for the
full article.The Great Depression
2009
Here
is a voice from the past that we should listen to today;
I
predict future happiness for Americans, if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them. Thomas Jefferson
My
reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from
too much government. Thomas Jefferson
To
compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which
he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical. Thomas Jefferson
Here
is what Thomas Jefferson said way back in in 1802: "I believe that
banking
institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.
If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of
their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and
corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people
of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent
their fathers conquered."
You
all just go ahead and keep listening to the
very ones who
brought this condition on us, Corrupt Corporations and Political
Leaders. Who do you think pushed so hard to get credit cards in all the
hands of Americans? Who do you think caused all the mortgage failures?
Greedy Corporations did it.
Let
me tell you what my friend did
when he was approached by his boss with the very first loan application
that brought all this mess on. Dan told them to put that application
where the Sun don't shine. My friend told the broker that this was a
recipe for failed loans and he would not have a part in screwing
millions of Americans. If my friend Dan knew what these type of loans
would do, so did all the Mortgage companies and Lenders....Greed did
this.
Let
me tell you something about the good old Stock
Exchange; have you ever noticed that it is set up just like a Casino?
In fact, I call it the Corporate Casino. You haul your paycheck down to
them, shove it into their Corporate pot in hopes of making a killing.
But in the end, just like a Casino, the Corporation comes out on top
and the little guy they suckered gets crushed.
Because
this is becoming too big a page now, I'll add the important headline
links here and you can go read the article for yourself, opens in a new
window anyway, so you can remain here.
A quarter
of all government databases are illegal and should be scrapped or
redesigned, a report has claimed.
The
Joseph Rowntree Reform Trust says storing information leads
to vulnerable people, such as young black men, single parents and
children, being victimised.
4 Hurting comments: And
they want to i.d card us all, yeah right, once again yet more proof of
abuse of power, wise up British people before it is too late and fight
back against the police state by using your voting rights and spreading
the word, like I'm doing here.
DNA
pioneer Alec Jeffreys: drop innocent from database (15th April 2009) Internet
privacy: Britain in the dock (15th April 2009) Police
caught on tape trying to recruit Plane Stupid protester as spy
(25th April 2009) Manchester
launch for ID cards (6th May 2009) Efforts to issue cards to pilots
and other airport workers - a scheme which is being trialled at
Manchester and London City airports - are meeting with growing
resistance. Pilots say they
are effectively being forced into signing up for the cards. "Our members
believed the government promise that the ID card would be voluntary,"
said Jim McAuslan, general secretary of the pilots' union Balpa. "But they now know
it is anything but. Our members must have an airside pass to operate
aircraft and now discover that to get that pass they must have a
national ID card.
4 Hurting comments:
While I still believe about 80-20% that the mark is symbolic, I would
err on the side of caution, as something literal may still play a part,
because all this is about control, this is what the global elite want.
Worryingly, I still think they will say one day, okay Lee you don't
have to have the I.D card, phew, but you won't be able to apply for a
new job, you won't have access to the health service, dentist and so
on, wow. Taxman
can use database of ID cards to track our spending habits and bank
accounts (17th May 2009)
I'm fast beginning to wonder if the mark of the
beast spoken
of in Revelation chapter 13 is literal
and not symbolic
as I believe. It may play some part
and you'll therefore find this
interesting: Pastor
Billy Corne on radio
liberty and GCN (mp3) (June 2009) India
to issue all 1.2 billion citizens with biometric ID cards (15th
July 2009)
All this seems to
ring true to me, from my research:
Natural and unnatural disasters
abound, weather anomalies explode everywhere, economic havoc swamps the
world whilst the ruling elite continue calling the shots. Many things
are happening that seem to be random, isolated events, but have they
just been planned to appear that way?
The ruling elite
control many governments, and they are directing their governments to
extinguish people's rights and liberties more and more. They use any
excuse to bring about snippets of martial law for various terms.
Technology has
reached a state where it can exacerbate natural occurrences and even
create artificial meteorological/geological/viral events. These tools
are being used to bring about extreme droughts, floods, unprecedented
wind/fire/rain/hail/snow storms, earthquakes, diseases, etc., all of
which can conveniently be attributed to global warming. The people
caught in these epidemics and disasters feel helpless and subsequently
look to their respective governments for assistance. Often, it is a
case where the culprits appear to be the guardians.
Many world leaders
are desperately pursuing economic rescue packages in their respective
parliaments. The different groups of the ruling elite have attempted to
hide the global recession for many months. Now, right on schedule, they
are all exposing the economic crisis that faces the world with a united
voice.
Again, with one
voice, the world leaders now seek enormous economic rescue packages.
Regardless of apparent differences being aired domestically and
internationally, their ultimate goal remains similar - to pass huge
packages that will draw the whole world into debtor's "prisons".
The leaders are now
stressing the urgency to pass these rescue packages to ward off another
1930s-style Great Depression. They argue that the American President,
Franklin Roosevelt, used the Keynesian economic model of huge deficit
spending to pull the United States out of the Great Depression. This,
they claim, can be done again on a global scale. However, the huge
spending outlays by the Roosevelt government did not bring the country
out of depression, it was the entry into World War II that did.
The share markets are
faltering and have been propped up by the ruling elite to uphold what
little value still exists in them. The ruling elite do not want to risk
any more of their resources to prop up the markets, so they have called
on the governments of the world to do this for them. The governments
are answering the ruling elite's calls by passing enormous rescue
packages, which will temporarily maintain the illusion of some
remaining value in the markets. These packages are not designed to help
the ordinary people keep their homes and jobs. Instead, they are rescue
packages for the favoured of the ruling elite. The people who put their
confidence in the ruling elite's providence will end up disappointed
when their common stock becomes practically valueless.
Banks are amongst the
most favoured sons and daughters of the ruling elite. Once the plans
are in motion, the "rescued" banks will become greedy landpersons who
grab higher rents and more properties. The common people will suffer
horrendously at the hands of the ruling elite and their banks.
The rescue packages
will fail miserably, which is exactly what the ruling elite anticipate.
Then, the global recession will develop into global depression. The
ruling elite hope that history will repeat, and just as the Great
Depression of the 1930s led to World War II, the ruling elite hope that
the twenty-first century economic depression will lead to World War
III.
If the ruling elite
have their way, things will get decidedly worse for the people. Those
who understand the situation should resist the ruling elite.
